You've definitely inspired me to try NotebookLLM. I am swayed as well that a creative lead on it was author Steven Johnson. I'm a bit slower on coming up with a realistic test of it.
The Claude Artifacts are of interest as well, almost as a eay to perhaps add H5P like interactivity, that is less pre-programmed? But... I have to admit I realized the Nursing game had the same answer for all, so seeing that, I aced a perfect score ;-)
I've introduced NotebookLM to my K-12 teachers. We are using it in both internal curriculum development and as well we are looking into ways that we might use it to help students who struggle more with the material. I've found it to do a decent job of taking my prompts (instructional designer, UbD, creative transfer assessment maker etc) and my materials and creating good resources that can be used in the classroom. I also like the (future not enabled for our students yet) ability to take the notes that you collect in class and have it generate a wide range of study options and helps
Fabulous report, Lance! I love your video overviews of these powerful tools. I have three questions - and would appreciate your insights:
1. Do any of these tools use the results of the work to improve their summaries or work product for the next user? (In other words, since you've built a great NC SARA either Notebook or PerpPage or ClaudeProject -- will *my* version of an NC SARA benefit at all from the work you've done to edit your presentations?
2. In the case of PerpPages, as it is collating sources, do we have any knowledge of why it pulls one set of sources versus another (say, from Forbes instead of, say, Scientific American)? Is it simply tagging of the resources? Will people have to learn any new tagging taxonomies or are the ones we've used for Google sufficient?
3. Your 5 cents on the differences between Google Notebook LM versus Claude Projects? Different look and feel; and it seems that Notebook automatically sources whereas you had to ask Claude to provide sourcing.... but anything more fundamental?
thank you for reading and watching as well as commenting!
Q1: With Google Notebook, my guess is no. Notebook seems to work only within the environment that one has created, so it wouldn't necessarily draw from other Notebooks. That said, there are probably still some more abstract ways that my usage will inform how it responds/reacts with others (and vice versa).
Q2: My sense is that it is using its own form of RAG (Retrieval-augmented generation) in conjunction with its LLM to determine which ones to choose. I do hope they make it more accessible/augmentable.
Q3: I think Notebook feels more siloed which can be really helpful in reducing hallucinations (but probably not eliminating). Its outputs still feel a bit clunky. I want to see them more like Google docs than static note-cards. Claude Projects feels more opportunity to cross polinate or get creative with outputs. But that's still early assessment.
You've definitely inspired me to try NotebookLLM. I am swayed as well that a creative lead on it was author Steven Johnson. I'm a bit slower on coming up with a realistic test of it.
The Claude Artifacts are of interest as well, almost as a eay to perhaps add H5P like interactivity, that is less pre-programmed? But... I have to admit I realized the Nursing game had the same answer for all, so seeing that, I aced a perfect score ;-)
yeah--H5P is exactly what Artifacts reminds me of!
I love Johnson's work and read his substack as well. I was interested but had trouble finding some good use cases to test out until now.
I've introduced NotebookLM to my K-12 teachers. We are using it in both internal curriculum development and as well we are looking into ways that we might use it to help students who struggle more with the material. I've found it to do a decent job of taking my prompts (instructional designer, UbD, creative transfer assessment maker etc) and my materials and creating good resources that can be used in the classroom. I also like the (future not enabled for our students yet) ability to take the notes that you collect in class and have it generate a wide range of study options and helps
those are very cool uses! Thank you for sharing Josh!
Fabulous report, Lance! I love your video overviews of these powerful tools. I have three questions - and would appreciate your insights:
1. Do any of these tools use the results of the work to improve their summaries or work product for the next user? (In other words, since you've built a great NC SARA either Notebook or PerpPage or ClaudeProject -- will *my* version of an NC SARA benefit at all from the work you've done to edit your presentations?
2. In the case of PerpPages, as it is collating sources, do we have any knowledge of why it pulls one set of sources versus another (say, from Forbes instead of, say, Scientific American)? Is it simply tagging of the resources? Will people have to learn any new tagging taxonomies or are the ones we've used for Google sufficient?
3. Your 5 cents on the differences between Google Notebook LM versus Claude Projects? Different look and feel; and it seems that Notebook automatically sources whereas you had to ask Claude to provide sourcing.... but anything more fundamental?
With appreciation.....Betsy
Hi Betsy,
thank you for reading and watching as well as commenting!
Q1: With Google Notebook, my guess is no. Notebook seems to work only within the environment that one has created, so it wouldn't necessarily draw from other Notebooks. That said, there are probably still some more abstract ways that my usage will inform how it responds/reacts with others (and vice versa).
Q2: My sense is that it is using its own form of RAG (Retrieval-augmented generation) in conjunction with its LLM to determine which ones to choose. I do hope they make it more accessible/augmentable.
Q3: I think Notebook feels more siloed which can be really helpful in reducing hallucinations (but probably not eliminating). Its outputs still feel a bit clunky. I want to see them more like Google docs than static note-cards. Claude Projects feels more opportunity to cross polinate or get creative with outputs. But that's still early assessment.